
"The Disney attorney said piracy is piracy—and he’s right. AI companies have basically plundered copyrighted material from publications."
Posobiec opened the segment by pointing to news that Disney is suing Midjourney over unauthorized use of its copyrighted content to train AI models. “That's exactly what you and I were talking about the very last time I had you on the show,” Posobiec said, noting that Disney’s notoriously aggressive legal team is finally entering the fray.
“Disney has always, always been very… anyone in the business knows that Disney is the strongest when it comes to defending their IP,” he later said. “God forbid you mess around with Mickey Mouse or the other characters out there.”
Ward, though not a fan of the company, said. "I can’t believe I’m gonna do this, but I'm actually gonna defend Disney’s actions on national television,” he said. “The Disney attorney said piracy is piracy—and he’s right. AI companies have basically plundered copyrighted material from publications, conservative and liberal publications, from movies, from news programs. They’ve basically plundered all of our intellectual property.”
“These AI companies basically said, ‘Hey, we’re going to steal everything we can to train our models and we’ll get back to the intellectual property later.’ But they haven’t really moved fast enough to create these kinds of license deals. Disney is within its rights and within its power to sue," Ward later added.
Posobiec said that to train programs like Grok, Midjourney, and Chat GPT, “They’re plugging in books, news articles, movies, podcasts… but not actually going and getting a license from any of the owners of this."
“They’re paying these liberal publications, like massive deals to The New York Times, to The Washington Post, to Axios and Politico, and they need to make the same market deals with conservative publications like The Post Millennial, Human Events, and the Washington Examiner.”
“They need to pay for their content,” Ward added. “Not only for licensing purposes, but also to balance the scale—because we all know that AI has a massive liberal bias problem.”
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